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Re: Guard Mameluke Question
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:39 am
by grizzlymc
I don't mind tramping my dark green feet all over RMD's mamelukes, doesn't do to be too helpful.
Oh alright, I'll start a new thread when I have them primed.
Re: Guard Mameluke Question
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:21 am
by RMD
valleyboy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:15 am
I've painted some of these and my conclusion was that there was no standard uniform but I can't remember why I came to that
I blame my dotage
I can't recall what sources I used by my recollection was that there was precious little and Rousellot had no reference plates
Cheers VB! Once again, I'm baffled as to why the Great Mr Barton hasn't done an Eagle for them... (having just finished the Gendarmes d'Elite and wondered the same thing).
Re: Guard Mameluke Question
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:28 am
by RMD
grizzlymc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:45 am
Well, those Asian women aren't getting near my dick if they have that much steel in their mouth.
Mamelukes. Cant find my Funcken, and I was sure that Dad had the Osprey, but I can't find it. But Cdgt Bucquoy has a good description. I assume that you've pulled a bunch of images off google for the general layout of the uniform and accoutrements. I am also assuming that you want the post 1804.
The pants are amaranth, a bluish red, I used Humbrol 153 Insignia Red, which contrasts with their 60 scarlet which is what I use for pretty much everything else. If you normally use 153 for red, you might try 73 wine for the pants, but it's too purpleish (and we don't want that kiddies, do we).
The top part is a sleeveless flak jacket affair over a long sleeved collared shirt. The jacket is occasionally shown open with the shirt exposed in front, but usually closed, trust your sculptor. The shirt is exposed in the collar and sleeves, there is often, but not apparently always, a sort of twisted serpent lace from the cuff almost to the elbow, it seems to be yellow, presumably gold for orificers.
The shirt and jacket can be any colour of the damned rainbow, the more gharish the better. I have seen one painting of them matching, but usually they seem to contrast deliberately. Likewise the sash around the belly. Musicians seem to have preferred red jackets, but I wouldn't take that with much more than a grain of salt.
The crossbelt is normally red, but officers and musicians seem to have gone for white or green.
The silly Turkish hat is red, brass cresent and star, green plume and white turban/pugaree thingy.
The saddlecloth is a Chasseur style pointy ended green number with a narrow red trim and a red and white striped fringe to that about twice the width of the red one.
I gave them buff boots and the officer red boots. I have seen paintings with black shoes.
If you need anything more, let me know and I will try and find out.
Cheers Grizz, most useful!
That's good, as 153 was what I going to use (darkened for the first coat and then neat 153 as the highlight). Amaranth, eh? That was also the facing colour for the Berg Lancers and I think it also might have been the same as the 'pink' of Murat's Berg/Neapolitan livery.
Standard green plumes, eh? That's interesting - I've not seen that elsewhere, but it does make sense that the standard-issue hat would have a standard-issue plume.
Re: Guard Mameluke Question
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:37 am
by grizzlymc
Look, the whole idea of the Mamelukes was that the officers and NCOs of the party receiving the charge would be struck speechless at the technicolour rabble charging them and then be overwhelmed by sabre cuts. Nothing would surprise me less than buglers with blue plumes, officers sporting white or red ones, or white and red ones.
But Buc choy is a very sound source. Next time you are in an off licence, get a look at the fake pinky red colour of maraschino cherries, it's a little paler than 153, but not noticeably so. The big deal is for it to look different to the red.
Re: Guard Mameluke Question
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:39 pm
by valleyboy
Love those GdeE's RMD
What figureolians is them then. Are they conversionisms?
Re: Guard Mameluke Question
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:12 pm
by RMD
valleyboy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:39 pm
Love those GdeE's RMD
What figureolians is them then. Are they conversionisms?
Ta!
No, they's ABs! They appeared in the catalogue at the same time as the Mamelukes and Marins and have been sitting in my 'to paint' mountain for the last 18 months or so, along with the Mamelukes.