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Re: Help ID figures
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:36 pm
by Tim Hall
They are definitely Essex, but they have made huge changes in their 25mm ranges, these were in the ECW range as Scots Royalists/Irish Kerns.
https://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/colle ... ucts/ecw41
Re: Help ID figures
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:58 pm
by Norman D. Landings
Paul wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:46 pm
Buff Orpington wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:57 pm
I'd take a guess at highlanders, tying up the kilt wasn't unheard of.
It's not the kilt that was tied up. The plaid was removed and the long shirt underneath was tied up like some sort of weird 'nappy' (and to stop thistle rash).
Yep.... the “lang Leine”.
Basically a big girl’s nightie with two pronounced pointed ‘tails’ at the front of the hemline.
The whole hemline was folded up, and fastened with a belt or cord - giving the appearance of a short kilt - and the pointed ‘shirt-tail’ bits hang down over said belt like bunny ears.
In the medieval era it would be dyed with saffron. They looked like hairy Hare Krishnas.
The hoi polloi would approximate the saffron effect as best they could with the natural dyes they had to hand. That’s right. Pish. Dorty wee monkeys.
Re: Help ID figures
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:40 pm
by Paul
Norman D. Landings wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:58 pm
In the medieval era it would be dyed with saffron. They looked like hairy Hare Krishnas.
The hoi polloi would approximate the saffron effect as best they could with the natural dyes they had to hand. That’s right. Pish. Dorty wee monkeys.
It all continued beyond the medieval period in colour and use. Right up to the '45 the full plaid was generally discarded before battle and the men wore just the shirt...or less to fight! (Even poor highlanders had a dozen or so ways of getting a yellow dye, just one had the more 'piquant' element
and the term 'saffron' probably refers to the colour rather than the actual use of the 'spice' as a dye).
Re: Help ID figures
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:26 am
by Count Belisarius
I've got about 20 of them in roughly equal proportions if anyone wants them?
EB got them mixed in with some Dark Age stuff in his then impending but now a reality Old Age...
Re: Help ID figures
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:52 am
by Norman D. Landings
Paul wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:40 pm
Norman D. Landings wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:58 pm
In the medieval era it would be dyed with saffron. They looked like hairy Hare Krishnas.
The hoi polloi would approximate the saffron effect as best they could with the natural dyes they had to hand. That’s right. Pish. Dorty wee monkeys.
It all continued beyond the medieval period in colour and use. Right up to the '45 the full plaid was generally discarded before battle and the men wore just the shirt...or less to fight! (Even poor highlanders had a dozen or so ways of getting a yellow dye, just one had the more 'piquant' element
and the term 'saffron' probably refers to the colour rather than the actual use of the 'spice' as a dye).
True enough, but they did use stale urine (“Glaith” in traditional Scots dyeing) as a mordant, and I’ve never been one to let the finer points of fabric crafting get in the way of a good racial slur.
Re: Help ID figures
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:59 am
by Norman D. Landings
Count Belisarius wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:26 am
I've got about 20 of them in roughly equal proportions if anyone wants them?
EB got them mixed in with some Dark Age stuff in his then impending but now a reality Old Age...
That’s a unit of ‘fierce foot’ and a unit of javelin-chuckers for LR.
And....
In this shed-clearance box Ian sent me during the round-robin, there’s a unit of medieval archers, and a unit of light cav.
Am I flirting with madness to think it may be possible to make a Lion Rampant retinue from EB’s cast-offs?
Re: Help ID figures
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:06 am
by Count Belisarius
Is that a yes then?
Re: Help ID figures
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:10 am
by Norman D. Landings
Is that you wanting these archers and light cav?
Re: Help ID figures
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:13 am
by Count Belisarius
No!!!!
You know you want the hairy chaps...
Re: Help ID figures
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:20 am
by Essex Boy
My work here is done.
Mwahahahahahahahahah