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Re: Further dilemmas of an amateur tanker...
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:32 am
by grizzlymc
I thought Stanner the oracle had recanted and said that it probably did fade to blue, or something.
Damn you ET. That's the one. Great shot of a crusader though.
Re: Further dilemmas of an amateur tanker...
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:57 am
by Etranger
Gray?
Or Blue?
Same tank, same paint, different light & camera settings.
Re: Further dilemmas of an amateur tanker...
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:14 pm
by Jeremy
I always thought it was more sea grey (ie blueish) than stone grey
Re: Further dilemmas of an amateur tanker...
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:19 pm
by Etranger
Jeremy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:14 pm
I always thought it was more sea grey (ie blueish) than stone grey
It's meant to be slate grey! Mike Starmer thinks that the Tank Museum got it wrong anyway (but he would!).
Re: Further dilemmas of an amateur tanker...
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:25 pm
by Paul
Etranger wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:19 pm
Jeremy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:14 pm
I always thought it was more sea grey (ie blueish) than stone grey
It's meant to be slate grey! Mike Starmer thinks that the Tank Museum got it wrong anyway (but he would!).
I think Grizz mentioned above that the blue interpretation was now seen as at least a correct variant of the Caunter. It's the second time i've seen someone say this and the state the fact that Starmer has also admitted his mistake. However I haven't actually seen anything in my interweb crawls which even discusses the reasons for the change of heart other than anecdotal evidence. If there are some uncolourised, colour photos out there it would be interesting to see them.
Re: Further dilemmas of an amateur tanker...
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:56 pm
by Etranger
Unfortunately the Caunter pattern seems to have largely evaded colour photography.
These
might be, although the Signal photographers
colourised a lot of their photographs. (From
http://www.themodellingnews.com/2015/04 ... s-his.html )
This
http://www.themodellingnews.com/2017/10 ... r-new.html is now on my wishlist!
Re: Further dilemmas of an amateur tanker...
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:20 pm
by Etranger
Paul wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:25 pm
Etranger wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:19 pm
Jeremy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:14 pm
I always thought it was more sea grey (ie blueish) than stone grey
It's meant to be slate grey! Mike Starmer thinks that the Tank Museum got it wrong anyway (but he would!).
I think Grizz mentioned above that the blue interpretation was now seen as at least a correct variant of the Caunter. It's the second time i've seen someone say this and the state the fact that Starmer has also admitted his mistake. However I haven't actually seen anything in my interweb crawls which even discusses the reasons for the change of heart other than anecdotal evidence. If there are some uncolourised, colour photos out there it would be interesting to see them.
Here you are, from Mike S
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/missing ... 86980.html Third post down, but the whole thread is worthwhile. It also suggests that the photos I showed above are original colour films, using Agfa, which has a blueish hue, just to confuse things.
Re: Further dilemmas of an amateur tanker...
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:51 pm
by Etranger
Sorry Norm, we're dragging your thread off to strange places ....
from
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/track48 ... t9113.html
Re: Further dilemmas of an amateur tanker...
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:29 pm
by Paul
I have loads of photos of my maternal grandfather from his time in the 8th Army as an Officers Batman and driver. Unfortunately their all 'black' and white and not a hint of caunter on the various things he drove. Although I think the photos are largely from Italy, Crete and Greece.
Re: Further dilemmas of an amateur tanker...
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:39 pm
by Jeremy
I read somewhere, and I don’t know how true it is, that vehicles received in the desert were sometimes still olive and that they would spray engine oil on and then throw sand over the top.