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Re: Indian Pattern Carriers

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:04 am
by RMD
Etranger wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:39 am
RMD wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:04 am
Etranger wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:09 am

Yes, used by the kiwis as Artillery OP's. Apparently they built 70 odd IPC's of their own, of which a number survive.
I'm getting serious deja-vu... Have we already had this discussion...?

I presume the 'X' on the side of the vehicle is the RA tactical marking for a battery commander (on the RA red-over-blue flash)?
we've nattered about it on various threads. i think you told me about the Kiwi carriers in the first place! http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1672
I've forgotten so much useless shite... :moredrink:

Re: Indian Pattern Carriers

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:48 pm
by bangorstu

Re: Indian Pattern Carriers

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:03 pm
by RMD
bangorstu wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:48 pm https://toofatlardies.co.uk/forum/viewt ... 35&t=12012

might be of some use?
Hmmm... Not sure I agree with a lot of that. While the process of Indianisation had begun and was accelerating (with some Bn COs being Indian by 1941, as mentioned above and well-documented in Burma), there were still an awful lot of British Platoon Commanders in the Indian Army. They didn't suddenly get commissioned as Majors, so how else did they learn their trade?

At the nitty-gritty end of a peacetime army, let alone a wartime army, VCOs had extremely limited powers under the Indian Army's equivalent of the Army Act and King's Regulations, as they weren't classed as 'Officers Commanding', so each platoon ideally required a KCO to command it and to adjudicate disciplinary matters.

Re: Indian Pattern Carriers

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:52 am
by Vintage Wargaming
British Pathe footage of IPCs, Marmon Herringtons, and 2 pdr portees in the desert here.

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/indi ... long+range

Despite the caption thought to be the Guides Cavalry rather than LRDG (Indian Long Range Squadron). Includes mortars firing from inside the vehicles.

The sub unit is B Squadron, the British officer with the splendid moustache is Randall Plunkett, and the suggestion is it is post Alamein as this was when they first received any armoured cars.

Re: Indian Pattern Carriers

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:55 am
by Etranger
Nice! An interesting little force in it's own right.

Re: Indian Pattern Carriers

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:12 am
by Essex Boy
Bugger. Now I want to whip my 15mm desert stuff out and get it painted.

Re: Indian Pattern Carriers

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:29 am
by Jeremy
That must be a euphemism

Re: Indian Pattern Carriers

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:52 am
by grizzlymc
Euphemisms would have got too hot to play in the desert in summer.

Re: Indian Pattern Carriers

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:26 pm
by Buff Orpington
And they get full of sand

Re: Indian Pattern Carriers

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:38 pm
by grizzlymc
Yup, it takes 4 litres of water to flush it out.