Page 3 of 4

Re: Belbin

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:33 pm
by ochoin
Wg Cdr Luddite wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:46 am , unless you think being blunt is a bad thing. I
Well, all things considered, I tend to incline towards the general idea that possibly being overly direct or "blunt" if that is what you believe to be the bon mot, is not always as desirable as the opposite approach and indeed may be counter-productive in any reasonable discussion between consenting adults unless, of course you are using the epithet not as a descriptor for a type of communication but rather as one for a type of weapon though even here I would beg you to consider its opposite when applied to weaponry suggests a thing far more deadly.

.....and I believe I will pass up your no doubt kind invitation.

Re: Belbin

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:34 pm
by ochoin
Wg Cdr Luddite wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:46 am . I don't use the word blunt;
You must have a hell of a time at the Knife Sharpeners.

Re: Belbin

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:53 pm
by Davidson
Is it even possible not to have a hell of a time at the knife sharpeners? haha

Re: Belbin

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:08 pm
by BaronVonWreckedoften
Wg Cdr Luddite wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:46 am Anyone who disagrees can lick my hairy bollocks.
Now there's an incentive to go vegan......

Re: Belbin

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:49 pm
by Wg Cdr Luddite
ochoin wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:34 pm
Wg Cdr Luddite wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:46 am . I don't use the word blunt;
You must have a hell of a time at the Knife Sharpeners.
Not really. I find "Oi- I want these fuckers sharpening" will suffice.

Re: Belbin

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:58 pm
by Shahbahraz
Ah, the privileged classes speak.. I tend to the view that you catch more with honey than vinegar, though of course I reserve the right to be an utter 'blunt' when occasion demands. This week, I have been reveling in the opportunities afforded someone who knows his contract finishes in 8 weeks time. I have been thanked for my candour. Ha!

Re: Belbin

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:42 am
by Wg Cdr Luddite
Candour - good one. Yet another synonym for straightforward. I am learning much here.

Re: Belbin

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:02 am
by Wg Cdr Luddite
At school my English teacher (and form teacher) was from Penge. He was a Communist and liked to shag 15/16 year old girls. He wasn't sent to Yorkshire for his political beliefs, he was sent here because it was apparently OK to shag children in Yorkshire rather than in South London.
ps. he did eventually get his comeuppance and got his head kicked in. I like a happy ending.

Re: Belbin

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:32 am
by grizzlymc
Glad to hear it. I have never really understood why kids who were abused by clergy or teachers didn't get round a table in a pub in their twenties and say "Lets go stuff that bastard's tripes down his throat". My sister informs me that it is probably because not everyone is a violent psychopath. Sadly, she may be right.

Re: Belbin

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:40 am
by RMD
Aargh! I'd hoped, when I finally burned the Blue Suit, that I'd never have to hear the names Belbin, Maslow and the rest of 'em ever again...

The railway tried introducing such bollocks some years ago and I was sent for a two-day team-building and leadership seminar in Bristol... They were trying to get us to classify people as 'Dolphins' (sleek, adaptable, etc) or 'Dinosaurs' (slow, ponderous, stuck in an evolutionary dead-end):

"Oh yes, all my colleagues are definitely dolphins."
"Really? That's excellent. Could you explain your reasoning to the group?"
"No problem: They're mostly wet, smell fishy, almost impossible to understand and war vacant grins all the time. Is this going to take long?"
"Your attitude has been noted, Davies. A report will be sent to your line manager."

(My line manager was a fellow wargamer and laughed his bollocks off as he threw their report into the pot-belly stove)

They then went on to get us to do a load of very simple team-building/leadership tasks that I'd first done as a cadet, then again during selection at Biggin Hill, then again during Initial Officer Training at Cranwell, then again during Force Development sessions and again, year after year with my cadets... I gave the Directing Staff solution to all the exercises, provided very quick debriefs with direct reference to Maslow and the Functional Approach to Leadership and we managed to reduce an all-day session into three hours, whereupon we went to the pub and got wankered, which was a FAR more effective approach to team-building...