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Cataphracts

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:13 pm
by ochoin
My Late Roman army is going to need lots of cavalry.

I've been looking at both metal & plastic offerings.

The Zvesda set looks (as always) pretty good:

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1715

I'm assuming it would pass for the Roman item?

Please be nit-picky

donald

Re: Cataphracts

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:22 pm
by Norman D. Landings
Headgear strikes me as way too fancy.
Rightly or wrongly, I associate roman cataphractii with uniform cavalry helmets.
Although I freely admit I get that purely from modern illustrations and miniature ranges.

Re: Cataphracts

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:50 am
by Jeremy
I hate agreeing with Norm, but he’s right. They look more Palmyran

Re: Cataphracts

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:18 am
by goat major
They’ve got a Sarmation look to me, not that they couldn’t be allies or copies

Any reason you aren’t looking at these ? http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=745

Re: Cataphracts

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:01 am
by Norman D. Landings
Newline do late roman heavy cavalry (mail) and Palmyran cataphracts in less ornate headgear.

Re: Cataphracts

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:57 am
by BaronVonWreckedoften
goat major wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:18 am They’ve got a Sarmation look to me, not that they couldn’t be allies or copies.
We still get a Sarmation Army band playing in Haslemere High Street every Xmas. And to be fair they always look very uniform.

Re: Cataphracts

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:55 am
by ochoin
The HaT are nice sculpts but smallish - they lack presence.
Newline Roman Heavy cavalry don't appeal & if the Parthian cataphracts- well, why not Palmyran ones? And Zvesda are top line figures.

BTW there's a moderately well known tombstone set up by a Palmyran in Roman Britain for his Catavaullanian wife. It's in Aramaic & poor Latin. He was possibly a cavalryman. Admittedly, if he *was* a cataphract, he'd probably be wearing Roman clobber.

donald

Re: Cataphracts

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:03 am
by Norman D. Landings
ochoin wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:55 am if the Parthian cataphracts- well, why not Palmyran ones?

Fancy hats.

I wouldn't field the pointy boys as Romans, and I'd consider trimming the side plumes off that standard bearer. The rest of the Zvezda set... maybe.

Re: Cataphracts

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:24 pm
by ochoin
OK, you lot have talked me out of the folly of using these figures.

As always, I appreciate your good sense & knowledge.

donald

Re: Cataphracts

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:16 pm
by Essex Boy
It's your army - you should use whatever figures you like. I know I would.