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Does anyone know if Battle Honours 15mm Napoleonics are available in the UK? I lost track of who owned them after Kitney & Co sold them on. OG USA seem to still sell them, but not OG UK.

In particular, I'm after their Tony Barton-designed Confederation of the Rhine infantry packs, which were lovely - in the 'Late French' style uniform of square lapels, though including all the full-dress elements of gaiters, plumes, cords, epaulettes, etc. They were in a sort of 'relaxed marching' pose. They're ideal for Westphalian and Kleve-Berg troops, which is what I need.

If anyone has any spare, I could do with a couple of command packs, about three elite company packs and about six centre company packs.

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The OG 15mm company is different from the Old Glory corporation that sells the 25/28mm figures (and now also Blue Moon 18mm), hence the old OG 15mm range is not sold by Old Glory UK. The OG15mm and BH ranges are among the brands sold by 19th Century Miniatures in the USA, and whilst I think that BH was also originally offered by TimeCast, they now only do OG 15mm Napoleonics, so I think you have to order direct from 19CM. If you contact OG15/19CM they may be able to tell you if they have a UK dealer.

http://oldglory15s.com/

Also, be aware that whilst I think you may be OK with Confederation troops, you may not necessarily get Tony Barton sculpts, as some of the BH ranges were added to after OG15/19CM bought the range (in good faith it should be said), in order to fill in gaps that were left after Danny "the spiv" Boreham did his midnight flit with Tony Barton's intellectual property.

Hope that helps.

I've only seen them available from Trumpland
http://oldglory15s.com/Battle-Honors_c5.htm

Its more than 5 years since I bought any, perhaps even more like 10 and the quality was a bit dire

Vintage Wargaming wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:14 pm Fighting 15s

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Cheers matey, but AB aren't the same thing

Cheers chaps! Yes, I was afeared that they might now only be available from the USA, so I might have to bite the bullet.

The Tony Barton-designed Confederation figures were still in the range when I last saw it (after Kitney had added all the crap to the range), so I'm hopeful...

Not the best photo, but these are the figures I'm after. The chaps in blue with trousers and covered shakos are the campaign-dressed variant (here painted as Hessians) and the ones in white are the full-dress variants with breeches, gaiters and shako ornaments (painted as Westphalians). They also did them in bearskins and the same figures with helmets also served as the Bavarian part of the range (here painted as Badeners):



AB do Saxons with the right sort of coat for Westphalians etc, but they lack fringed epaulettes and bearskinned variants for elite companies and Guards. AB also do Late French, which again have the right sort of coat and fringed epaulettes for elites, but they lack the shako ornaments etc that I'd like for Westpalian/Kleve-Berg elite companied and Guards.

It's a pity that Tony B hasn't got around to just sticking an epauletted variant of the Saxon infantry in the range and a French hussar with full shabraque instead of the plain sheepskin, as those two options alone would open entire armies up. That was exactly what he did with Battle Honours, but doesn't seem interested in doing it for the Napoleonics.

And don't get me started about Saxon, Bavarian and Spanish horse artillery...

RMD wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:26 pm

Vintage Wargaming wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:14 pm Fighting 15s

https://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/20mm- ... -826-c.asp

Cheers matey, but AB aren't the same thing

Sorry just trying to be helpful. 15mm aren't my thing (as you now know

@VW - There was some cross-over between BH and AB. Some of the later Tony Barton BH sculpts (which he was never paid for) became part of the early AB range; the Spanish infantry and some cavalry were a prime example, only recently being re-sculpted to modern AB standards.

RMD wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:22 pm
And don't get me started about Saxon, Bavarian and Spanish horse artillery...

Or Wrussians in greatcoat