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ECW Standards, how many

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:21 am
by FreddBloggs
What little I can see of the time, seems to be one standard per 'company'.

Rather than them in pairs etc.

Would this be right

Re: ECW Standards, how many

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:49 pm
by BaronVonWreckedoften
Yes, one per company (a system still used today in the Foot Guards), so usually 10 in total. Typically, they were gathered together in the centre of the regiment, guarded by the pikes.

Wargames Designs, which sells on-line/eBay, recently expanded its range of colour sheets to provide an extra two colours per unit, ie four in total; the sheets are usually listed as an 'a' variant of the original - eg Trained Bands 4 and Trained Bands 4a.

Re: ECW Standards, how many

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:55 am
by Etranger
As the Baron says. That makes around 1 per 60 men, in a 600 man regiment (a typical size for a 'standard' regiment in the ECW). My 15mm regiments usually have 2 company standards in a 24 figure unit (1:25) & 1 if 16 or fewer figures, representing battle losses etc.

Re: ECW Standards, how many

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:36 am
by valleyboy
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Re: ECW Standards, how many

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:36 am
by BaronVonWreckedoften
Etranger wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:55 am As the Baron says. That makes around 1 per 60 men, in a 600 man regiment (a typical size for a 'standard' regiment in the ECW). My 15mm regiments usually have 2 company standards in a 24 figure unit (1:25) & 1 if 16 or fewer figures, representing battle losses etc.
Based on the ad hoc amalgamations to create "battalia" later on in the war, the presence of two or more small regiments in such a formation could mean 20+ colours - a veritable flag fest!

My FoG:R P&S "regiments" have six bases (2P/4S) of four figures each, usually with two colours. However, I recently looked at double-ranking them for a better visual effect (partly, it has to be said, after seeing Kerry's units - you need at least three ranks or it's not a real pike block!), which has meant that I can now fit four ensigns into the pikes, probably two in the centre of the rear rank of the front base, and the other two in the centre of the front rank of the rear base (which is usually the first base removed as a casualty in FoG:R). The shot need to be staggered slightly in order to fit, but with judicious use of officers/sergeants it actually looks quite good in the "dry runs".