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Battle of Arcis, 1814
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:41 pm
by ochoin
I'm thinking of wargaming some 1813-1814 battles in the future.
I'd like to start with Arcis. It has Napoleon outnumbered but using the Guard, which gives these troops a much needed trot on the table. The second day of the battle has a clear purpose - escape or be trapped.
Does anyone have any wargaming information on the battle? A clear map? Cut down OOBs? Victory conditions etc.
donald
Re: Battle of Arcis, 1814
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:28 pm
by Willz the Wargamer
I found this Donald,
Haven't watched it,may be useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3boutNgJUc
This map any good.
https://www.napoleon-empire.com/battles/arcis.php
Visit this site the map is bigger and would be better downloaded.
Willz.
Re: Battle of Arcis, 1814
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:32 pm
by Willz the Wargamer
Re: Battle of Arcis, 1814
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:33 pm
by Ilkley Old School
I have the Nafziger and Hourtoulle books on the 1814 campaign. Both have a simple map. Nafziger only has high level OOBs of the battle but does have some breakdown of some formations a few weeks before the battle.
Re: Battle of Arcis, 1814
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:40 pm
by Willz the Wargamer
Here's a map on sale on flebay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353244346148
Willz.
Re: Battle of Arcis, 1814
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:45 pm
by Willz the Wargamer
This Wikipedia link has a load of info but if you scroll to near the bottom there is detailed OOB.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arcis-sur-Aube
Willz.
Re: Battle of Arcis, 1814
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:34 pm
by ochoin
Wow. What a great response. Thank you.
donald
Re: Battle of Arcis, 1814
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:41 pm
by BaronVonWreckedoften
That's the great thing about this site - we're all very experienced plagiarists.
Re: Battle of Arcis, 1814
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:48 am
by Peeler
How was the Guard in 1814? Still Guardish or a bit more like Lineish?
Re: Battle of Arcis, 1814
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:07 am
by ochoin
Peeler wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:48 am
How was the Guard in 1814? Still Guardish or a bit more like Lineish?
Good question. Given how little the Guard was used prior to 1813/1814, it's hard to be definitive. Napoleon tended to put nearly any likely lad into the Guard at this stage, but they fought surprisingly well.
In the Campaign of France, they won battles & performed prodigies. Nap. himself, was in good form and I think if the French had the numbers, they'd have flogged the allies.
It's wonderful how defending your own country focusses the mind. Ask the present day Ukrainians.
donald
