Oil Washes on Historical Miniatures?
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- Hasty Harlot
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Oil Washes on Historical Miniatures?
Hi,
I've been looking into using oil washes on 28mm Historical miniatures and have found a ton of stuff on Fantasy/Sci Fi stuff in terms of tutorials/vids. Either my google foo is very off or the tutorials/vids simply do not exist.
I'm aiming to use them for The Crimean War, Ancients, Dark Ages and Late Medieval mini's.
Does anyone know of any such tutorials/vids using Oil Washes on 28mm Historical miniatures?
Thanks.
I've been looking into using oil washes on 28mm Historical miniatures and have found a ton of stuff on Fantasy/Sci Fi stuff in terms of tutorials/vids. Either my google foo is very off or the tutorials/vids simply do not exist.
I'm aiming to use them for The Crimean War, Ancients, Dark Ages and Late Medieval mini's.
Does anyone know of any such tutorials/vids using Oil Washes on 28mm Historical miniatures?
Thanks.
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Re: Oil Washes on Historical Miniatures?
I use them all the time, brown ink if you want soft depts, and black if you want hard lines of definition and deep shadows.
Basically paint the figure as normal, then use a thin wash over it. If say painting Austrians in white uniforms, I matt varnish then ink wash, so it out lines the belts etc, without staining the white coats.
Basically paint the figure as normal, then use a thin wash over it. If say painting Austrians in white uniforms, I matt varnish then ink wash, so it out lines the belts etc, without staining the white coats.
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Re: Oil Washes on Historical Miniatures?
Any images of the end result please?FreddBloggs wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 5:30 pm I use them all the time, brown ink if you want soft depts, and black if you want hard lines of definition and deep shadows.
Basically paint the figure as normal, then use a thin wash over it. If say painting Austrians in white uniforms, I matt varnish then ink wash, so it out lines the belts etc, without staining the white coats.
Re: Oil Washes on Historical Miniatures?
30 years ago, when we were still painting with Humbrols, we’d use artists oils like you would use washes today. Burnt umber was my go-to back then.
These days I mostly save them for vehicle weathering.
These days I mostly save them for vehicle weathering.
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Re: Oil Washes on Historical Miniatures?
Thanks Jeremy, My Fine Art degree immediately informs me that oils of a normal consistency for canvas would have too much Linseed Oil in them for them to be viable- to get an idea of what I have in mind please see Grimdark vids below:
https://www.youtube.com/c/GrimdarkCompendium
To get it right with historical mini's one would have to be even more subtle and Linseed Oil packed paints just won't allow such a deft touch.
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Re: Oil Washes on Historical Miniatures?
Am I not right in thinking that there are ranges of water-based "oil" paints?
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Re: Oil Washes on Historical Miniatures?
Yes. They have quicker drying times though which is not what one wants either as oil washes ought to allow as much time to work on the removal of the wash as possible.BaronVonWreckedoften wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 6:35 am Am I not right in thinking that there are ranges of water-based "oil" paints?
Also, they're generally very bad quality unless you buy the high end paints.
Re: Oil Washes on Historical Miniatures?
The military modelling fraternity use them all the time as weathering, pin washes etc. Perhaps look at some of those sites?
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Re: Oil Washes on Historical Miniatures?
My suggestion, would be to buy a couple of oils of various makes, paint some figures and just experiment. It might be that supercheap work better for this than very expensive, or vice versa.
My understanding of the water based oils, was yes they dry quicker, but hours instead of weeks, not acrylic speed drying.
My understanding of the water based oils, was yes they dry quicker, but hours instead of weeks, not acrylic speed drying.
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I have looked but their techniques quite rightly are mainly for 45mm on upwards and I suspect that the majority of techniques do not scale down very well(?). You're right though, I should take a deeper dive than I have done already.
Thanks. Experimentation is going to be the order of the day anyway as I have never tried using oils before.FreddBloggs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:00 am My suggestion, would be to buy a couple of oils of various makes, paint some figures and just experiment. It might be that supercheap work better for this than very expensive, or vice versa.
I've used oil washes on actual paintings hundreds of times and as long as they are mixed with a quality thinner they do not take long to dry at all. Maybe a day, two max. It really depends on i/ how much actual oil there is in the paint and i.e. how thinned it is and ii/ whether or not you are willing to use a hair dryer (yep, that works). There are always little "hacks" with all painting techniques be they acrylic, oils or a mix of both. I'm just trying to work out what they are at present, thus the reason I popped the question re: video resources for 28mm historical miniatures using oil washesFreddBloggs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:00 am My understanding of the water based oils, was yes they dry quicker, but hours instead of weeks, not acrylic speed drying.