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Bentheim Infantry German regiment in French service.

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 1:52 pm
by Willz the Wargamer
Been busy decorating the main bedroom and up Hereford visiting my Mum.
Only had time to finish these Bentheim Infantry German regiment in French service.
Using Warrior Miniatures advancing figures converting them to a kind of standing figure with command from Old Glory miniatures.
I could not find much information on the drummers uniform either, yellow and blue or Kings colours or blue and white or white?
So I went for blue and yellow with white lace.
Flags bt David at "Not by Appointment".
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Willz.

Re: Bentheim Infantry German regiment in French service.

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 2:43 pm
by Count Belisarius
Excellent unit.

Re: Bentheim Infantry German regiment in French service.

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 9:53 pm
by Spanner
Nice unit, Willz. You're right, mate, the drummers wouldn't be wearing the king's livery. Blue and yellow, blue and white, even a red coat with blue, white and/or yellow fancy bits may have been worn (Frédéric-Charles, Comte de Benthheim's arms were gules plated or, aka red with gold spots all over).

If anyone questions the drummers' colours then tell them to come back with documentary proof. At least that way you may score some new reference material. :evilgrin:

Re: Bentheim Infantry German regiment in French service.

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 11:53 pm
by RMD
Bloody superb and that is a very striking set of colours. What Dal said, though at the risk of making myself extremely unpopular, I did read somewhere that the King stipulated that blue livery-coats were not to be worn by anyone other than those authorised to wear King's livery.

(So of course this is a white coat with VERY heavy blue lace...) ;)

Re: Bentheim Infantry German regiment in French service.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 5:50 am
by BaronVonWreckedoften
Spanner wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:53 pm If anyone questions the drummers' colours then tell them to come back with documentary proof. At least that way you may score some new reference material. :evilgrin:
And if anyone questions why they are so much "chunkier" than your other units, it's obviously the superior diet of sausage, beer and apfel strudel. :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

Re: Bentheim Infantry German regiment in French service.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:44 am
by Willz the Wargamer
Cheers for your kind comments chaps, the colours blue, yellow and white always look good together.



Willz.

Re: Bentheim Infantry German regiment in French service.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:48 am
by valleyboy
Bloody hell, another nice unit, the flag dude must have a full time job keeping up with you Willz

Re: Bentheim Infantry German regiment in French service.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:50 am
by Willz the Wargamer
Spanner wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:53 pm Nice unit, Willz. You're right, mate, the drummers wouldn't be wearing the king's livery. Blue and yellow, blue and white, even a red coat with blue, white and/or yellow fancy bits may have been worn (Frédéric-Charles, Comte de Benthheim's arms were gules plated or, aka red with gold spots all over).

If anyone questions the drummers' colours then tell them to come back with documentary proof. At least that way you may score some new reference material. :evilgrin:
I decided to paint the drummer in the same coat as the troops working on the theory that the colonel had to pay for the uniform and it was cheaper to sow some white lace on a infantry man's uniform than have a bespoke one made of different colours. He gets to keep the money saved, "ching ching" :)

Willz.

Re: Bentheim Infantry German regiment in French service.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 12:59 pm
by Spanner
by Willz the Wargamer » 23 May 2023 17:50
I decided to paint the drummer in the same coat as the troops working on the theory that the colonel had to pay for the uniform and it was cheaper to sow some white lace on a infantry man's uniform than have a bespoke one made of different colours. He gets to keep the money saved, "ching ching"
So you've met a couple of my old CO's, then? That sort of thinking was more prevalent than many would realise, mate, and is a perfectly good reason.

Re: Bentheim Infantry German regiment in French service.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 1:46 pm
by BaronVonWreckedoften
Willz the Wargamer wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:50 am I decided to paint the drummer in the same coat as the troops working on the theory that the colonel had to pay for the uniform and it was cheaper to sow some white lace on a infantry man's uniform than have a bespoke one made of different colours. He gets to keep the money saved, "ching ching" :)
Not sure if it applies to the mid-18th Century period, but by the time of the AWI, I think all of the German contingents but the Brunswickers (whose drummers all wore yellow coats with varied facings) were in heavily laced versions of the same blue coat worn by the R&F, so it may have "become a thing".