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Wanted: WW2 German le FH 18 Howitzer and Crew+ gun tractor
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:59 am
by ochoin
As the title says.....in 20mm - 1/72. Plastic or metal. Painted or unpainted.
I need it to complete a battery.
donald
Re: Wanted: WW2 German le FH 18 Howitzer and Crew+ gun tractor
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 12:18 pm
by Etranger
Frontline Hobbies have the 1/87 Preiser horsedrawn model at a reasonable (for Preiser!) price. 1/87 though.
https://www.frontlinehobbies.com.au/pre ... d-howitzer Apparently there's also an Ace Model kit too.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/26435484990 ... 1&mkcid=28
Actually I might have a couple of metal ones, but they're currently in the storage locker. I can have a look in the next couple of days. There's probably some crew and suitable motive power too.
Re: Wanted: WW2 German le FH 18 Howitzer and Crew+ gun tractor
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:13 pm
by ochoin
That'd be nice.
You can, of course, get all 3 components from 3 different sources online but that means 3 lots of P&P for 3 small sales.
& 1/87 is too small for my taste & I don't want horse drawn.
donald
Re: Wanted: WW2 German le FH 18 Howitzer and Crew+ gun tractor
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:15 am
by BaronVonWreckedoften
ochoin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:13 pm
You can, of course, get all 3 components from 3 different sources online but that means 3 lots of P&P for 3 small sales.
It also means 3 different interpretations of 20mm/1:72, which can sneak into the realms of "awkward".
A propos the horse-drawn option, am I right in thinking that BEF personnel captured before they got back to Dunkirk noticed that many of the German gun- and wagon-teams passing them on the road contained horses bearing the WD arrowhead, as the Germans had snapped up many of the surplus gee-gees discarded when the British Army mechanised in the mid-/late-1930s?
Re: Wanted: WW2 German le FH 18 Howitzer and Crew+ gun tractor
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:34 am
by Etranger
BaronVonWreckedoften wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:15 am
ochoin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:13 pm
You can, of course, get all 3 components from 3 different sources online but that means 3 lots of P&P for 3 small sales.
It also means 3 different interpretations of 20mm/1:72, which can sneak into the realms of "awkward".
A propos the horse-drawn option, am I right in thinking that BEF personnel captured before they got back to Dunkirk noticed that many of the German gun- and wagon-teams passing them on the road contained horses bearing the WD arrowhead, as the Germans had snapped up many of the surplus gee-gees discarded when the British Army mechanised in the mid-/late-1930s?
I've seen that story too, Presumably there's some truth behind it but the artillery was largely motorised well before the war & most cavalry had mechanised.
Re: Wanted: WW2 German le FH 18 Howitzer and Crew+ gun tractor
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:27 am
by tim.w
Early war miniatures do the gun. I have one. Not sure if they do the limbers/horses?
Re: Wanted: WW2 German le FH 18 Howitzer and Crew+ gun tractor
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:21 am
by ochoin
The good ET has helped me out with this lacunae in my German forces.
Thanks everyone for the advice.
donald
Re: Wanted: WW2 German le FH 18 Howitzer and Crew+ gun tractor
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:28 am
by grizzlymc
I think most of the horse transport was stuff like infantry guns and second line transport, the latter through to the end of the war. But I have seen photos of divisional field artillery with horses and limbers on the Russian Front. Field kitchens also seem to have been horse drawn, at least in infantry units.
Re: Wanted: WW2 German le FH 18 Howitzer and Crew+ gun tractor
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:38 pm
by BaronVonWreckedoften
The TOE of a German infantry division - even late into the war - included about 2,500 horses and a battalion of over 400 men to look after them.
Re: Wanted: WW2 German le FH 18 Howitzer and Crew+ gun tractor
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:02 pm
by grizzlymc
That's a few kitchens and ammo wagons, but also all the stuff that Churchill found so mystifying about British MT.
I've also seen your reference to recycled British Army horses at Dunkirk.
Hate them, they drop dead at the drop of a hat, require enormous maintenance and eat their carrying capacity in fodder in a few days.