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18thC Shoulder Knot - uniform question

Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:13 am
by goat major
Does anyone have a better picture of an 18th Century shoulder knot, in the style depicted here on a WAS Spanish Royal Guard ?

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Re: 18thC Shoulder Knot - uniform question

Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:24 am
by Willz the Wargamer
Does this help.

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Willz.

Re: 18thC Shoulder Knot - uniform question

Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:29 am
by goat major
Oh it does I think thank you!!. Seems like two loops connected to a central knot?

Re: 18thC Shoulder Knot - uniform question

Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 10:14 am
by Patrice
Yes. Looking at modern ones may help (although the number of loops may vary). Usually there's also a metal tip at the end.

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Re: 18thC Shoulder Knot - uniform question

Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 2:05 pm
by BaronVonWreckedoften
I think it was a way of keeping the "master" match out of harm's way - a sort of "safety match" if you like - and ready to relight those of the men, hence it would often indicate a corporal.

Re: 18thC Shoulder Knot - uniform question

Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 2:15 pm
by goat major
Could be the origins. The Spanish Royal and Walloon guards had them for all ranks. Scarlet for troopers, silver for NCOs

Re: 18thC Shoulder Knot - uniform question

Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 7:54 pm
by goat major
Thanks for helpful answers. I think ive improvised something that gives roughly the right impression with fuse wire

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Re: 18thC Shoulder Knot - uniform question

Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:23 pm
by Essex Boy
I tried looking for a reenactment group website.......beyond me I'm afraid.

Your example looks OK to me.

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Re: 18thC Shoulder Knot - uniform question

Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:25 pm
by goat major
Cheers Eeb

Re: 18thC Shoulder Knot - uniform question

Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 9:00 pm
by Count Belisarius
Yeah. That looks pretty good