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Back to black
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:02 pm
by ochoin
For Xmas, I was given, amongst other things, a bottle of black primer.
I haven't used black primer for decades &I'd forgotten how much I hate it.
Still.
donald
Re: Back to black
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:55 am
by BaronVonWreckedoften
Haven't used it since the late 1970s; every contact with it since, usually as a result of buying stuff off of eBay, has involved seeing how easy it was to remove by simply rubbing it off with one finger. Yes, Citadel Chaos Black - I'm looking at YOU!!!
Re: Back to black
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:09 pm
by ochoin
This was Vallejo. The issue is how it dulls - subtly - the upper coats.
I'm a bright, colourful chap & I like my figures to also be.
donald
Re: Back to black
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:35 pm
by Peeler
Always just used a black spray can, but it does dul the colours a bit.
Re: Back to black
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:26 pm
by valleyboy
I always use black undercoat, you can always drybrush white before adding colours if you want bright - it give figures depth I think and is more easily covered - I hate white undercoat
Re: Back to black
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:56 pm
by ochoin
Aren't we are a broad church, VB? Thankfully, no-one tells us "we're doing it wrong!". At least, not here.
donald
Re: Back to black
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:52 pm
by tim.w
Call me odd, but I use both. Black for my Dark.Ages stuff as it lends well to a more dulled look and it's much easier for chainmail but white for most everything else.
Re: Back to black
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:01 pm
by Count Belisarius
tim.w wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:52 pm
Call me odd
You're odd...
Re: Back to black
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:48 am
by RMD
I always use black undercoat (thinned black enamel), though a mate of mine often gave me figures to paint that he'd spray-primed using Vallejo (I think) black primer and it was always absolutely awful. It just rubbed and flaked off whenever handled.
Re: Back to black
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:33 am
by Spanner
Depends on the uniforms. I airbrush the undercoats with a darker shade of the uniform colours (for 28mm+ while 15's/18's get white, grey, flesh or black, depending on what's to hand). So I use a medium grey for mostly white or off-white uniforms, for example. I also use enamels for undercoating- acrylics wear too easily and can be a pain to spray when it the weather is warmer.