The head that wears the crown

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The head that wears the crown

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Our medieval Show game will pit 5 (Lion Rampant) retinues against each other with points for burning villages, capturing fleeing peasants, wagons & live stock & - the ultimate goal- a mounted Lord & Lady. As well as killing each other & fending off two defending retinues.

I have Tumbling Dice figures for these latter two targets. The male figure is in mail, surcoat, drawn sword & carrying a banner on a caparisoned horse. All good so far. But he's wearing a crown. If necessary, I might be able to file it off. However, did anyone down from a king wear a crown? Could the figure represent, for instance, the Count of Toulouse where the game takes place or is wearing a crown treasonous & thus, unlikely?

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Or he may be a pretender to a crown, mate? I think the difference between crowns, coronets, etc, came fairly late in the period. I'd ignore it- it may come in handy later.
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I wouldn't stress too much about it, "Crowns" of varying sorts could be worn by anyone with the authority and cash to afford one.
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The Duke of Orleans has a crown like device on his helmet.
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Here is Raymond with a crown.
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Simon de Montfort.
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I think that if you were the ruler of a specific piece of land - whether as a king, prince, duke or whatever - you got to wear a crown of some sort and different styles were evolving for different ranks. The Duc d'Orleans was usually the son or younger brother of the King of France; Simon de Montfort was a pretender to the English throne, so both could be shown with "royal headgear" by partisan artists.

Raymond was brilliant with Lord Charles. "Uneasy glies the gead that gears the grown!" as he would have put it.
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Bunch of pretentious clowns.....NOT you lot! I meant the various medieval nobility you cite. Really.

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BTW great picture of Ray 2
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