List of Perry Sudan Miniatures that can be used for the Second Anglo Afghan War

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List of Perry Sudan Miniatures that can be used for the Second Anglo Afghan War

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Hi,

I'm hoping (praying!) that someone can help. The Perry's used to have a list of what codes from their British Sudan range could also be used for their Second Anglo Afghan War range on their old website.

I had copied the list to a Word file. However, that was on an old laptop which has since died.

I was wondering if anyone out there had kept a copy of the list?

If so, i would be very grateful if you could either leave a the list on this thread or PM me with said list (please!).

Thanks.
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Doesn't their Victoria's Little Wars Range cover the 2nd Afghan War?
Otherwise my best educated guesses are: SB21-25 In Indian Service Dress, probably SB26-29 for the Seaforth Highlanders? (rather than the Black Watch), SB33-34 10th Hussars, SB68-70 Sikhs, Possibly SB71-73 Bengal/Bombay Infantry (Whilst elements of the Bombay Army certainly participated in the war i'm not certain what parts and therefore what uniforms?) and SB74-76 Bengal lancers.

There may well be others as well and my feeling is that contacting Perrys direct is the best option.
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I shall be speaking to them later this week and can ask if you wish.
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Paul wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 11:56 pm Doesn't their Victoria's Little Wars Range cover the 2nd Afghan War?
Yeah, I've got over £400 worth :moredrink:
Paul wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 11:56 pm Otherwise my best educated guesses are: SB21-25 In Indian Service Dress, probably SB26-29 for the Seaforth Highlanders? (rather than the Black Watch), SB33-34 10th Hussars, SB68-70 Sikhs, Possibly SB71-73 Bengal/Bombay Infantry (Whilst elements of the Bombay Army certainly participated in the war i'm not certain what parts and therefore what uniforms?) and SB74-76 Bengal lancers.
As far as highlanders go, the 72nd were there for certain and according to Tim Reese (the British army uniforms series of CD's) so were the Gordons.

Tim Reese has the 10th Hussars there. I'm assuming they would be sticking to their swords?

All the Indian Service dress Brits codes are (obviously) good.
Paul wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 11:56 pm There may well be others as well and my feeling is that contacting Perrys direct is the best option.
I have and so far I've heard nothing back. A bit disappointing as I have done painting work for them in the past.
BaronVonWreckedoften wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 3:56 am I shall be speaking to them later this week and can ask if you wish.
Please do mate, that would he a great help. I don't want to order any miniatures that I don't erm...... "need" :)
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Guys, for future reference- this from Mad Guru aka Ethan of the Maiwand Day Blog:

I believe that would be the various packs of Infantry, Indian service dress (SB21-SB25);

The 10th Hussars command (SB33) and swords drawn (SB34);

The Sikh Infantry packs (SB68-SB70);

And the various Bengal Cavalry command & with lances packs (SB74-SB76).

NOTE: I did not include the 3 x "Bengal/Bombay infantry" packs (SB71-SB73), because these all wear smooth khaki covers over their turbans which post-date the Second Afghan War, and as there now are some perfectly accurate Second Afghan War Perry Indian Infantry figures in their "Victoria's Little Wars" range, there's no need to do turban conversions on the Sudan range Bombay/Bengal infantry figures to make them fit the Afghan War, the way I did more than a decade ago.

You could also use the Royal Artillery 7 pounder Screw-gun and crew (SB45) -- though if you're picky you may want to remove the desert goggles from the officer's foreign service helmet, and possibly remove the puggarees from all the crew's helmets, as in Afghanistan they would probably have been wearing khaki cloth helmet-covers. But if you leave all their helmets as-is and just paint them in khaki uniforms with blue puttees, I will in no way hold it against you!
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Yes the Seaforths are listed as part of the Field Army but the Gordons don't seem to be! They were however part of the relief column that was sent to Kandahar in 1880 after also being recorded fighting in earlier engagements at Kabul and Charasia.

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Atheling_2006 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 11:53 am NOTE: I did not include the 3 x "Bengal/Bombay infantry" packs (SB71-SB73), because these all wear smooth khaki covers over their turbans which post-date the Second Afghan War,
It was the headgear I had doubts about too, nice to get it confirmed :)]
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Paul wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 11:59 am Yes the Seaforths are listed as part of the Field Army but the Gordons don't seem to be! They were however part of the relief column that was sent to Kandahar in 1880 after also being recorded fighting in earlier engagements at Kabul and Charasia.

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Atheling_2006 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 11:53 am NOTE: I did not include the 3 x "Bengal/Bombay infantry" packs (SB71-SB73), because these all wear smooth khaki covers over their turbans which post-date the Second Afghan War,
It was the headgear I had doubts about too, nice to get it confirmed :)
Forgive the pun, but that went straight over my head :fp: :lol:
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