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Re: Looking for a big covered well (28mm)

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:33 pm
by grizzlymc
N for Norman isn't interested in failed artists. He only targets celebrities. Y'no, people who've done summat wiv their lives.

Re: Looking for a big covered well (28mm)

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:28 pm
by Essex Boy
BaronVonWreckedoften wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:12 pm Just got notified about these on another forum:-

http://www.tabletop-world.com/?product=91

https://stronghold-terrain.de/en/shop/e ... traegerin/

Went for the second one, and ordered a "St Brendan of Clonfert" figure to accompany my SAGA Normans, all for the same postage.

So nah-nah, nah nah naaah to the feckin' lot o' yas!!!! Still find it odd that nobody in the UK makes something like this.

(The reason I was being so snarky about the tax & RM kidnap ransom was because I believe the threshold for paying it is £18 including postage, and the Novus Designs well, with postage, was £18.48. Given my previous luck with customs duties I wasn't going to risk being stung for whatever (20%?) + £8 for the sake of 48 pence. The purchase from Stronghold came in at £26 including VAT at only 19% :finger: AND with two useful figures.)
I believe VAT is due on goods purchased from outside the EU where the gross value is more than £15. The gross value includes the cost of the goods plus carriage, plus insurance and plus duty (you don't pay duty where the goods, plus carriage and insurance totals less than £135). It's the same VAT you would be paying to an EU VAT registered trader (subject to the prevailing rate of VAT) and only a fraction less than the VAT you indirectly pay to a trader who isn't registered for VAT - roughly equivalent to the VAT on the profit margin in fact.

The £8 is the amount the Government feels happy for you to pay to its agent so that it doesn't have to employ a few civil servants.

Why the feck do I still care about any of this............

Re: Looking for a big covered well (28mm)

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:46 pm
by levied troop
Because you care :D
BaronVonWreckedoften wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:24 pm
levied troop wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:57 am Why not scratchbuild :evilgrin: it’s not too difficult:
The other Baron and I are going to give you such a slap at Salute! :purps:

(Given our age/state of health, we may have to take turns.)
Do you want me to bring the stepladder?

Re: Looking for a big covered well (28mm)

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:49 pm
by Paul
Essex Boy wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:28 pm The £8 is the amount the Government feels happy for you to pay to its agent so that it doesn't have to employ a few civil servants.
It's the £8 agents fee that is the rip off.
I am sure that adding say £1 to the duty would easily cover the cost of contacting recipients directly for payment before releasing the item for delivery. It was always meant as a way of adding revenue to the Royal Mail rather than a genuine, necessary service.

Re: Looking for a big covered well (28mm)

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:20 pm
by Essex Boy
Paul wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:49 pm
Essex Boy wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:28 pm The £8 is the amount the Government feels happy for you to pay to its agent so that it doesn't have to employ a few civil servants.
It's the £8 agents fee that is the rip off.
I am sure that adding say £1 to the duty would easily cover the cost of contacting recipients directly for payment before releasing the item for delivery. It was always meant as a way of adding revenue to the Royal Mail rather than a genuine, necessary service.
It is. It's not quite money for old rope, but it's not far off.

Re: Looking for a big covered well (28mm)

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:24 pm
by Buff Orpington
It is when the VAT element is £3:08 and you end up paying £11:08

Re: Looking for a big covered well (28mm)

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:12 am
by Essex Boy
Buff Orpington wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:24 pm It is when the VAT element is £3:08 and you end up paying £11:08
But, to be fair, if importing goods over a certain value it's a given that VAT is due and that there will be a handling charge. If we add VAT and £8 handling to the costs when ordering the goods there would be less disappointment.

Re: Looking for a big covered well (28mm)

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:11 am
by Jeremy
Oh stop whining the lot of you! You’re worse than a bunch of crotchety old women!

You occasionally have to pay VAT/import on a small % of your toy purchases. Those unfortunates in other countries have to pay postage, which often exceeds the cost of the item, wait 4 to 6 weeks for something that may never arrive, and then pay VAT and duties on EVERY shipment.

You seriously don’t know how good you have it! :kill: :cowboy: :uzi: :2guns: Take it from someone who had to do this for 29 years.

Re: Looking for a big covered well (28mm)

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:55 am
by Essex Boy
Only twenty nine years? You must have started very, very young.

Re: Looking for a big covered well (28mm)

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:08 am
by Jeremy
15. I’m younger than I look :drunk: