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levied troop wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:26 pm I have about 100 French painted plus a couple of other bits (and naturally a horde of unpainted). All Front Rank.

I was just reviewing the box they’re in and wondering if I wanted to sell or finish them and my regular itch for F&F came back. Also, if we doing tricornes for Ayton20 I might give myself a deadline to finish them. I miss deadlines.

There you go, your Ayton army right there.

Iain

The version I have is by Wilbur E Gray and is 14 pages of rules, with the suggestion that the original F&F is necessary + 16 pages of scenarios. It reads slightly fussy (something I’ve found with American rules before - although F&F is completely the opposite) and I recall dropping AoE very quickly. However a little tinkering should solve that to my satisfaction - I’ll have a look at the Regimental F&F and see if AoH can follow that master instead.

Regimental may work better. One of the hurdles I couldn't quite clear with AoH was the brigading. It seemed to play much like ACW F&F. I confess though that my experience my have been tainted by my screaming mad attack kill mame slaughter opponent. Not the gentlemanly SEEMS type.

Essex Boy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:00 pm I confess though that my experience my have been tainted by my screaming mad attack kill mame slaughter opponent.

Err 'scuse me
Is there any other way then Bro?

Civilised gentlemen parade their troops in front of massed batteries to give the other chap a chance.

Knowing nothing of F&F or 18th century leaves me wondering if rules where units are brigades are really going to work so well in the 18th century?

Not too sure what the problem is. F&F worked off units that were anything from 3 to 19 bases (usually 4 figures to a base) depending on historical size. They called them brigades but basically they move/take or give casualties/take advantageous or disadvantageous consequences.

Call them regiments, standardise the unit size to something more fitting to professional armies, say 8 bases, reduce ranges and add a couple of fire factors representing more 18thC delivery and the rules should work at a basic level. Mind you, I haven’t tested that yet and I’m now flitting around my Vikings box. I’m a right flibberty-gibbet at the moment.

valleyboy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:48 am

Essex Boy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:00 pm I confess though that my experience my have been tainted by my screaming mad attack kill mame slaughter opponent.

Err 'scuse me
Is there any other way then Bro?

He's a nutter. Quite incapable of not attacking. Most disconcerting.

him incapable of not attacking, you incapable of defending or of attacking. Quite a match up.

You know what's coming don't you?

Interesting to know which one's the first to get trampled by his own routing cavalry.