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The Combat of Zinna 1759 - The Scenario

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:04 pm
by RMD
Here's the scenario for a little SYW refight we played a couple of weeks ago, featuring a vastly-outnumbered Prussian force attacking an Imperial army of dubious combat value... It was bloody good fun! Report to follow...

http://www.jemimafawr.co.uk/2022/04/27/ ... r-tricorn/

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Re: The Combat of Zinna 1759 - The Scenario

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:45 pm
by Peeler
I like the looks of that.

Re: The Combat of Zinna 1759 - The Scenario

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:29 pm
by RMD
Peeler wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:45 pm I like the looks of that.
Thanks! It certainly was a fun game and a proper nail-biter. The Prussians have the quality and the leadership, but the Empire has the numbers.

Report to follow. :)

Re: The Combat of Zinna 1759 - The Scenario

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:01 pm
by Ilkley Old School
That is what a SYW game should look like. I also like the single based units.

Re: The Combat of Zinna 1759 - The Scenario

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:19 pm
by RMD
Ilkley Old School wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:01 pm That is what a SYW game should look like. I also like the single based units.
Thanks Ilkley! :thumbs:

Yeah, we started going to single bases back in the 90s, as it made movement MUCH quicker and it made different units easier to identify when shoulder-to-shoulder in the firing line. On the rare occasion they want to adopt column formation we stick an MDF arrow next to them to show the direction of facing. However, I find that picking up BIG, heavy cavalry bases does tend to damage the figures, so I've gone back to four or six-figure bases for those.

Re: The Combat of Zinna 1759 - The Scenario

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:05 pm
by Spanner
Looking forward to the replay of the battle, mate. I like the look of Reichsarmee set up- it's a nice change from the usual suspects and, as Ilkey said, it's got that "look" about it.

I'll have the Leibfahne and FWR pattern Kompagniefahne for Plettenburg off to Kronoskaf and David at NBA some time this weekend*, if you're after them.

*or perhaps next weekend, if I can't dig out my references.

Re: The Combat of Zinna 1759 - The Scenario

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:38 am
by RMD
Spanner wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:05 pm Looking forward to the replay of the battle, mate. I like the look of Reichsarmee set up- it's a nice change from the usual suspects and, as Ilkey said, it's got that "look" about it.

I'll have the Leibfahne and FWR pattern Kompagniefahne for Plettenburg off to Kronoskaf and David at NBA some time this weekend*, if you're after them.

*or perhaps next weekend, if I can't dig out my references.
Cheers mate! Apologies for sneaking some Bavarians on to table, in lieu of the Kurmainz Regt - I've not painted any Mainz troops yet, though Kurmainz and Mainz-Lamberg are high on my 'to do' list. I also used Baden-Durlach and Kurtrier for the 1st & 2nd Battalions of the Ernestisches-Sachsen Regt. The Prussians are a right bunch of stand-ins; the only units I actually have in my collection that matches this orbat are the Willemy Grenadiers, the Hoffmann Fusiliers and two of the hussar squadrons!

Re: The Combat of Zinna 1759 - The Scenario

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:18 am
by Spanner
What's wrong with not using the actual regiments, mate? You're not doing a demo game or diorama of the battle, after all, and the Bavarians, Badeners and Rhinelanders make a nice visual change from the usual suspects.

Re: The Combat of Zinna 1759 - The Scenario

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:31 am
by RMD
Spanner wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:18 am What's wrong with not using the actual regiments, mate? You're not doing a demo game or diorama of the battle, after all, and the Bavarians, Badeners and Rhinelanders make a nice visual change from the usual suspects.
Oh no indeed, I thought I'd mention it, as all the other regiments are actually the correct ones. :)

Funnily enough, the general waving his hand in the air, just behind the Bavarians, is actually Wildenstein, the inhaber of the Kurmainz Regt. I painted him in the 90s because I liked the uniform and never got around to painting his regiment! :) IIRC at the time (pre-internet) there was no information on their flags, which is why I never did them. There's STILL no information on their flags, but at least now in the internet age we can download some nice conjectural ones (same goes for Mainz-Lamberg and the two Wurzburg regiments)! :thumbs:

Re: The Combat of Zinna 1759 - The Scenario

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:13 am
by Spanner
There's descriptions of the flags for Kurtrier, and illustrations of possible Würzburg flags, on Kronoskaf. David had some good conjecturals on NBA, as well. Kurmainz, though, would be pure guesswork. However, Colonel's colour white field with the imperial eagle bearing the arms of Mainz in a cartouche, or just the arms in a wreath, would fit the flag fashions of the day. Make the Regimental colour's field green but otherwise the same pattern. I wouldn't worry too much- if there's no information then what can you do?

You can always have the colours cased?