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FreddBloggs wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:30 pm The swedes were in the wss, you mean all that gold and diplomacy by marlborough was wasted? Or did you mean gnw?
Mea culpa - yes, GNW. :purps:

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A question, gentlemen - Thoughts on the most compelling way to base the Jaegers, and other lights, that would complement my big battalion style build? Sadly there are only two poses - loading and firing. My close order stands have 36 troops each in three ranks, so was thinking maybe 12-18 in firing/loading 2 man teams staggered about a bit.
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Sounds about right.
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Not much I could find online that was pertinent to my interest in SYW lights, but found some images in a book on the evolution of the British rifle regiments, so using these drill images as my basis for basing.

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Linky?
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It’s difficult for your Prussian Jägers in this scale of war as they didn’t fight in battles and were often only between 10 and 50 men.

Swarms of Croats will be fun though! They will look magnificent in your big units
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I'm not familiar with this period but the questions I would ask are:
1) Did these armies actually have a proper skirmish doctrine and troops trained to use it ?
2)Did these troops have any effect on major battles ?
If the answer to either question is No then I have solved your basing problem.
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I only need 3 or 4 stands of them for the Prussians. Typical use was to occupy forested areas or BUAs in fairly small numbers. So thinking a few clumps of skirmishers to put on the flank etc.

The Grenz/Croats I expect will be needed in greater numbers but haven't researched them enough yet to come to a decision as to how to build them out yet.

http://kronoskaf.com/syw/index.php?titl ... ger_zu_Fuß
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Here's the book I took those drill diagrams from. Goes well back before the Napoleonic period to provide context so hence discusses the SYW and AWI as well...

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https://www.abebooks.co.uk/book-search/ ... leon/pics/
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Purple wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:37 am I’ve really been struggling to paint the 6mm but when I see stuff like 5is it makes me want to try again.
This is some of the finest 6mm I’ve seen.

Have you any painting tips?
Purps- Did this test strip for the next unit of Prussian heavies I expect to paint. Hope the pix are helpful for you. These took about 45 minutes to for the three figures, which is an exorbitant amount of time for 6mm I suppose. Though I expect now that I've got the palette and contrast questions worked out, during the mass production effort these will certainly take less time per figure.

1. Primed with a grey-ish etch primer. Timmo is right about this stuff. It's an excellent surface to work from and since I've switched to it, adhesion of the pigments of the layers that follow has improved.

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2. Paint the horse. I used the Foundry Chestnut triad with an ink wash over the base layer. Then a grey-black single layer for the tack and tails/mane. With the horses, I think going light helps make the rider pop more, visually, and also stands out well re. contrast against the basing scheme.

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3. Saddle, boots and scabbard.

Here I used a base from the Andrea Yellow set and then added Foundry Lemon Yellow tones over. Again, pushing forced contrast to help delineate the saddle cloth. The regimental lace is just a single application of Foundry Austrian white highlight, so not fiddling with the layering process there as I think the dark yellow and white give the right effect.

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4. Next, the riders' coats, gloves and the blanket roll. The Foundry Bone triad for the coat, all three layers. A quick application of grey-black for the cuirass and it's done as well. For the belting and gloves once can get away with just the highlight pot from the Foundry Austrian White triad, though depending on how neat the lines are, I will sometimes apply the base from that series first and then through the highlight on top to finish. Generally though, the exposed grey primer provides adequate shading for these uniform items. The blanket roll is first Painted with the base tone of Foundry Bavarian Blue and then brightened with the highlight tone of the same triad.

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5. Collar and Face. Typical layering here with the Foundry flesh triad. After first painting the collar and shoulder straps with two layers of yellow - deep shade to start with the highlight to finish.

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6. Hats, sabre and musket. Single application of grey-black for the tricorne, same for the sabe using Foundry Spearpoint highlight. And the musket is done with a two tone dark brown and highlight.

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And we're done...

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